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  • Ah yes, I've never read Without Remorse. But everyone knows that ending, yep.
    "Everything is amazing right now and no one is happy" - Louis C.K.

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    • Originally posted by Matt View Post
      I'll defend Tom Clancy's first 5-6 books. Any of his more recent output is indefensible.
      I'll defend his early output up to (and including) Executive Orders.

      Originally posted by Ed Hocken View Post
      Stephen Coonts did a better job at streamlining everything. Still I'll give Clancy over W.E.B. Griffin. Now he's terrible.
      Yeah, but Coonts sucks at character work. Clancy>Coonts.
      We are so accustomed to disguise ourselves to others that in the end we become disguised to ourselves.
      - Francois de La Rochefoucauld

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      • Originally posted by V View Post
        Only Clancy I love is 'Without Remorse'...

        Enough said.
        'Red Storm Rising', 'the Cardinal of the Kremlin', and 'the Hunt for Red October' are right up there, imho.
        Originally posted by Martin
        Who the fuck is Kellan Lutz?
        Originally posted by gravedigger
        Basically what I'm saying is that, based on what I've watched so far, we should all listen to Matt more often.
        Originally posted by Martin
        And who the FUCK is Peaches Geldof?
        Kellan Lutz's girlfriend?

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        • Sam Fisher = Clancy

          Coonts = No video game character I can think of

          Clancy wins.
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          • Originally posted by V View Post
            Only Clancy I love is 'Without Remorse'...

            Enough said.
            The only ones I love are The Sum of all Fears and Debt of Honor. I merely like the rest.
            We are so accustomed to disguise ourselves to others that in the end we become disguised to ourselves.
            - Francois de La Rochefoucauld

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            • Coonts doesn't have any video games. But Clancy just licenced his name to those video games.

              And what do you mean Coonts doesn't have good characters. How can you besmirch Admiral Jake Grafton? Sure, there's one book where Dan Quayle became Acting President.
              "Everything is amazing right now and no one is happy" - Louis C.K.

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              • And Craig Thomas mops the floor with any of them. Without Thomas, there would not be a Mitchell Gant or a Kenneth Aubrey.
                Originally posted by Martin
                Who the fuck is Kellan Lutz?
                Originally posted by gravedigger
                Basically what I'm saying is that, based on what I've watched so far, we should all listen to Matt more often.
                Originally posted by Martin
                And who the FUCK is Peaches Geldof?
                Kellan Lutz's girlfriend?

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                • Originally posted by Ed Hocken View Post
                  Coonts doesn't have any video games. But Clancy just licenced his name to those video games.

                  And what do you mean Coonts doesn't have good characters. How can you besmirch Admiral Jake Grafton? Sure, there's one book where Dan Quayle became Acting President.
                  Reading comprehension. Required. I said he sucks at character work. And he does.
                  We are so accustomed to disguise ourselves to others that in the end we become disguised to ourselves.
                  - Francois de La Rochefoucauld

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                  • Originally posted by Matt View Post
                    And Craig Thomas mops the floor with any of them. Without Thomas, there would not be a Mitchell Gant or a Kenneth Aubrey.
                    I'll have to check this out, I'm sure he's better than Vince Flynn.

                    Also, while not techno-thrillers, Brian "Son of Al" Haig's books were pretty good from what I remember.
                    "Everything is amazing right now and no one is happy" - Louis C.K.

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                    • hey, don't knock Vince Flynn. Mitch Rapp is THA MAN.
                      Originally posted by Martin
                      Who the fuck is Kellan Lutz?
                      Originally posted by gravedigger
                      Basically what I'm saying is that, based on what I've watched so far, we should all listen to Matt more often.
                      Originally posted by Martin
                      And who the FUCK is Peaches Geldof?
                      Kellan Lutz's girlfriend?

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                      • I think it was Cameron Hughes that said Vince Flynn sucked. Still, check out Brian Haig featuring Major Sean Drummond as the wisecracking JAG Attorney.
                        "Everything is amazing right now and no one is happy" - Louis C.K.

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                        • Watched 'My Life in Ruins' last night (watched it for CHUD, so my review will probably be written this weekend).

                          Plot: A tour guide in Greece (who has taken the job out of necessity) leads a group of tourists around Greece for a week. Romance ensues.

                          Horrible. Simply horrible. There isn't a single real, relatable character in the entire film. Everyone is a stereotype of a cliche of a stereotype, and it's all played so broadly that you can never get invested in the supposed 'romantic comedy' that's being presented. 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' wasn't a work of art, but at least the script played true to what real people are actually like.

                          A lot of the blame for this trainwreck has been placed on Nia Vardalos, and I honestly feel that it's pretty unwarranted: she's delivering what the script offers her, and she's honestly doing the best that she can to carry this drivel. Her charm still comes through, and in a better film that would be enough.

                          Richard Dreyfuss? Wasted. He plays the only somewhat 'real' person on the tour bus, and he's given a couple of relatively amusing scenes, but this is strictly a paycheck gig. Richard, wanna go to Greece for a couple of months and get paid for it?

                          And yes, Greece is beautiful in the film. I mean, it's really, really stunning looking. When the movie ended, my wife and I both agreed that we want to go there and do a tour...but not on THIS fucking tour bus.
                          Originally posted by Martin
                          Who the fuck is Kellan Lutz?
                          Originally posted by gravedigger
                          Basically what I'm saying is that, based on what I've watched so far, we should all listen to Matt more often.
                          Originally posted by Martin
                          And who the FUCK is Peaches Geldof?
                          Kellan Lutz's girlfriend?

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                          • Just started watching Black Dynamite last night, movie makes Undercover Brother its bitch.
                            "Everything is amazing right now and no one is happy" - Louis C.K.

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                            • Originally posted by Ed Hocken View Post
                              Just started watching Black Dynamite last night, movie makes Undercover Brother its bitch.

                              Black Dynamite is such a fucking great movie. By the time, they got to the Captain Kangaroo pimp...I was sold.
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                              • Watched High Fidelity earlier. I love that movie. Never got how anyone could even joke about Rob's place being a "dump." Nowhere with that many records, gorgeous chairs, and a magnificent Pavement poster could be anything approaching a tip.
                                "The bear is a solitary animal. They like their space. They live in a magic circle. They don't mind if you're, like, a mile away. But if you get inside their circle, they will maul you." - Anonymous

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