Does the "guilty pleasure movie" exist?

[Anderson]

How about guilty HATRED, then: a picture that is critically lauded and everyone else loves, but you can't stand it for some reason. If those can exist, cannot a guilty PLEASURE exist as well?

Well, that continues the stilted precedent. Stating there's multiple approaches to a film and various degrees of correctness.

It's as dumb as giving all kids trophies for participating in sporting events.

[Anderson]

I can name a whole bunch of my favorite films that would be considered good by most. But I like talking about films that people think are pure shit.

Freddy Got Fingered is a great film that most people mistake for being terrible.

[B_Metal]

There's bad word with a capital B and with a little b.

OHHHH now I see, Pauline is playing the symantics game.

I think Pauline needs to lay out his favorite films. Let's see them.

This.

[Matt]

Hey, I'm proud of my 8th place ribbons. Back off.

[Anderson]

I think Pauline needs to lay out his favorite films. Let's see them.

I've laid out my favorite films at several locales, but if we need another thread...I'll do it.

[B_Metal]

Freddy Got Fingered is a great film that most people mistake for being terrible.

O_o

[BudLeonard]

I think the term "guilty pleasure" comes a lot from film fan maturity, actually. It's a movie that you recognize is bad, but you like it anyway because you're a sucker for the way it's designed, the subject matter, or you watched it a lot as a kid. The latter is important, because there are a lot of bad movies out there (see: the Goonies) that people think are good because of nostalgia. This is not to be confused with a movie you watched a lot as a kid but haven't seen in years (for me, that would be the early ouvre of Miss Christina Ricci, particularly Casper and that ode to teenage lesbianism, Gold Diggers: The Secret of Bear Mountain).

Even though we disagree about everything else, I think I have to side with Kael on this one. It doesn't exist. Like what you like, but have a good reason for it. You can say "why you liked it as a kid." For example, a lot of people at work think I'm a fool for loving Bad Boys II. But I feel confident in being able to tell why I like it and I'm okay with being in the minority about it. Pearl Harbor, though, is harder to defend.

[Abraham Smashington]

How about guilty HATRED, then: a picture that is critically lauded and everyone else loves, but you can't stand it for some reason. If those can exist, cannot a guilty PLEASURE exist as well?

Yep. But then the argument becomes: "You don't like it? Then your opinion sucks"

[Anderson]

Yep. But then the argument becomes: "You don't like it? Then your opinion sucks"

It doesn't necessarily have to go there. If you can push that into fostering further discussion, that's the aim.

[Abraham Smashington]

Even though we disagree about everything else, I think I have to side with Kael on this one. It doesn't exist. Like what you like, but have a good reason for it. You can say "why you liked it as a kid." For example, a lot of people at work think I'm a fool for loving Bad Boys II. But I feel confident in being able to tell why I like it and I'm okay with being in the minority about it. Pearl Harbor, though, is harder to defend.

I like Hackers because it's a fun movie with characters that I enjoy. The soundtrack is aces and the film encapsulates my experiences in the 90's.

[Howard]

Freddy Got Fingered is a great film that most people mistake for being terrible.

I've love to see a defense of this film (don't hate it but I would never call it great. Good, yes.).

[B_Metal]

I like hackers because Angelina Jolie looks like heaven in it.

THIS

[Anderson]

I've love to see a defense of this film (don't hate it but I would never call it great. Good, yes.).

Freddy Got Fingered is the first attempt to redefine the Arthouse film in context of the ADD MTV Generation.

Slipping a skewed look at stunted adulthood into a trope about finding one's way, allows for a rudimentary look at fucked sexual relations.

Tom Green should be given a medal for making 13 year olds watch Rip Torn get covered in elephant jizz.

[B_Metal]

I liked The Ringer with Johnny Knoxville. It brought to the mainstream that retards are people too. Who knew?

Seriously though, that movie turned out really well and they were a shit ton more respectful than I thought they'd be with Knoxville in it.

[Anderson]

I liked The Ringer with Johnny Knoxville. It brought to the mainstream that retards are people too. Who knew?

Seriously though, that movie turned out really well and they were a shit ton more respectful than I thought they'd be with Knoxville in it.

You're not helping.