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**Matt** · 10-15-2010, 09:07 AM

Last night was indeed glorious. Watching the stunned WHAT THE FUCK reaction shots from April and Gretchen as Mike C's dress won huge accolades from the judges? PRICELESS. It was a gorgeous dress, but it WAS rather plain and easy looking. I'm not surprised that it did well, but I AM surprised that it did THAT well. I mean, ANYONE could have made that dress, but oh well.

The only way that it could have ended better is if Gretchen had gotten the boot instead of April.

**Lisa** · 10-15-2010, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Matt View Post

The only way that it could have ended better is if Gretchen had gotten the boot instead of April.

See, I'm not so sure. As much as I absolutely loathe Gretchen, I don't think she's an actual mean person. She's part of the Mean Girls clique, but I think she's more full of herself, combined with absolutely no self-awareness whatsoever. The one really mean thing I've seen her do was try to throw Michael C. under the bus during the team challenge when he had immunity. That was horrible, and really awful of her, but for the most part, I'd put Gretchen in the "Vain and Clueless" category, even though I find her insufferable.

Now April, on the other hand... that's a fucking little bitch. Actually congratulating Ivy last week for spreading the rumor to the entire work room that Michael cheated. And I loved her bitter little talking-head-interview from last week where she bitched about how Michael C "makes the same dress over and over again because it's all he knows how to do". Really, April? To me, his dresses have been different every time, whether they're good or bad - at least he makes something different. It's not like, ohhh, I dunno, someone else we know who makes the same black, sheer, nightgown-style dress with short puffy baby-doll sleeves for 12 straight challenges in a row. Hmmm, who could that have been? I'm sure I remember the judges mentioning that particular person on the runway last night - finally! That little girl needs to look up the word "projection" before she accuses another designer of making the same dress every week.

Anyway, to me, Gretchen is the lesser of the two evils. So although only three of them get to Fashion Week, I'd love to see her out at that point - so close, yet so far! An all boy final three would be worth it.

**Howard** · 10-20-2010, 08:16 PM

**Lisa** · 10-21-2010, 07:07 PM

Matt, who do you think the last three are going to Fashion Week?

Normally, I'd say this is going to be Michael C's time to go. But... there was a little speculation on the Project Rungay blog. Tom and Lorenzo - who've run this blog since season one, hang out with the designers, with the insiders of the show, and know anything on this show that may or may not be rigged - have the opinion that the Michael C/Gretchen rivalry will continue all the way to Fashion Week. That's what the producers want for the show, and it doesn't matter who's clothes are the best or not. The producers want Gretchen and Michael to duke it out to the bitter end. T&L's feeling is that the best designer will still win - which is Mondo, so to the producers, the feeling is "no harm, no foul", and the Gretchen and Michael drama will continue on for second and third place. Meaning - if they're right - Andy will go home tonight. They're pretty firm on this, and they hang out with the PR people - they said it's been pre-determined that this rivalry is going to be wrung out to the last drop.

**Howard** · 10-21-2010, 08:14 PM

Gretchen needs to go. I'd love it if she were to fall flat on her face on not make the final 3. Needs to be an all male top 3.

**Howard** · 10-21-2010, 09:24 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

**Lisa** · 10-21-2010, 09:39 PM

WOW. I guess Project Rungay was wrong on that one!

That was brutal. I can't believe Gretchen is in - her collection was hideous. I've seen cuter stuff in Mandee's!

Michael's breakdown was really hard to watch. At one point, it was SO over the top, I was thinking, "Okay, dude, geeze, take a pill..." But then when he said how he was scared that when he broke the news to his family that he didn't make it to fashion week, they'd start in on "Oh, you failed, move back home, just get married, etc." - and my heart broke for him a little. I keep forgetting the guy is about 28 years old, and I don't know - maybe it's something with Italian/Greek/Latino families, because I suddenly realized, "Wow... mine's the same way. I can feel for this poor guy, having that kind of pressure from your family to just give up and take no risks with your life." My family is better about it now, and is quite a lot more supportive now that I'm pretty much pushing 50. But when I was his age? That was all I heard. With any failure, instead of, "Okay, pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and get back out there!", it was "Oh, just come home to Atlantic City, move back home with us, get married to whatever guy strolls along, you'll learn to love him. You can get a job at the casinos, I'm sure!" Just soul crushing, and I've been in his shoes. I'm sure when the dust settles, he'll be okay, but that was really hard to watch. And I thought his collection was gorgeous - far lovelier than Gretchen's, who cares if it was all in the same color family? Season four, Christian Siriano WON with a nearly all black collection, which they bitched about because it was all black, and then they handed him the win. So I mean, what gives?

**Howard** · 10-21-2010, 09:46 PM

Yeah it was brutal. I think she was kept in for ratings. She sucks but has bitchy comments. Really, I wonder how everyone can even be civil to her. Ugh. Not a Gretchen fan.

Michael C's drama at the end? PAINFUL to watch. Seriously. They should have edited some of that out.

**Matt** · 10-21-2010, 09:49 PM

Irina won with an all black collection as well.

Gretchen's collection wasn't spectacular. The jewelry looked costumy and the designs were Southwest-Hemp. Michael's was superior.

Michael's loss crushed me. Absolutely crushed me. That was the real deal, and I'm genuinely concerned for his wellbeing.

**Matt** · 10-21-2010, 09:52 PM

I hope that some major fashion designer out there hires Michael. He's got the goods for elegant gowns and has really churned out stuff that women will want to buy and wear. His commercial sense could serve him well and make him a lot of money.

**Lisa** · 10-22-2010, 06:25 AM

Oh, there are a lot of people whose hearts are just breaking for this poor guy over at the TWoP forums. So sad. No one can understand how Gretchen's boring, hideous collection got in over Michael's. And his breakdown has everyone really teary-eyed for him.

Someone in the know posted that Mondo was with Michael to watch the broadcast last night, and show him some support. Gotta love Mondo, what a kind, classy guy.

Oh, and Matt - you'd been wondering the story behind his kids. Apparently, he was forced into an arranged marriage when he was 18! He and his wife had two kids - his little girl lives with his ex wife and her new husband, and they're part of some weird religion where they won't let Michael see his daughter because he's gay. His son lives with him and his partner. So now I understand even more his fear that his family will just try to force him to marry again, to a woman, how they'd probably figure "Oh, marriage can cure you of being gay" or something like that. His family sounds like assholes.

**Howard** · 10-22-2010, 06:28 AM

I watched it a second time (with Helen after she got home from work). Ugh. I cried again. Helen agreed with me. They should have edited some of that ending out. Also, Gretchen still sucks and her collection makes children cry.

**Lisa** · 10-22-2010, 06:58 AM

Here's a post from the forums at TWoP, and yeah, it's pretty much what I was saying, too:

"I get the feeling that getting on Project Runway was probably the first time that Michael C.'s family took a break from pressuring him to give up the designing, move back home, and get married to a woman. What I got from his breakdown was that all of his family's pressure hit him, along with the realization that it was probably going to start back up again. The breakdown wasn't about not making it to the final 3, it was about the fact that he felt like his family was going to use that as proof that they were right and he really was a failure."

I mean, look, no one's saying to give the guy a spot at Fashion Week so his family will lay off of him. But it's just so unfair, his collection was SO much prettier than Gretchen's, and even Andy's. They cut him for the drama. All I'm saying is that his breakdown over his family's total lack of support, that and the fact that only one of his fellow contestants has been kind to him all season long, makes his auf'ing even worse.

**Lisa** · 10-25-2010, 12:41 PM

No proof, no links, no nothing, and of course, this is the kind of stuff we're going to hear about right before any reality TV finale, but....

Spoiler: Don't click if you don't wanna know.

**Matt** · 10-25-2010, 12:50 PM

Not surprised. The 'this is the hardest decision that we've ever made' comment in the preview for the finale kinda set us up for THIS eventuality.

Then again, Michael Kors wears the same black outfit every day of his life and designs shit clothing.

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