Geek things you don't get

[B_Metal]

I must be dumb as rocks because I apparently missed the anti gay stuff in the movie. Could someone clue me in? Mind you I went in with no knowledge of the GN as I'd never read it. I have it home now and will read it asap but up till now have not.

[Matt]

Rorschach is anti gay in both the GN and the movie. The Director's cut restores the 'Possibly homosexual? Must investigate further' line regarding Ozy.

Also, Ozy has a computer folder marked 'Boys' when Dan logs in with the Ramses II password. This reinforces the pedophilia - homosexuality thought process that is totally WRONG.

[Anderson]

I must be dumb as rocks because I apparently missed the anti gay stuff in the movie. Could someone clue me in? Mind you I went in with no knowledge of the GN as I'd never read it. I have it home now and will read it asap but up till now have not.

Silhouette's murder

[B_Metal]

Rorschach is anti gay in both the GN and the movie. The Director's cut restores the 'Possibly homosexual? Must investigate further' line regarding Ozy.

Also, Ozy has a computer folder marked 'Boys' when Dan logs in with the Ramses II password. This reinforces the pedophilia - homosexuality thought process that is totally WRONG.

Silhouette's murder

I thought those things were more a comment on how society thinks about gay/lesbians than the movie saying "gays are bad." Also I never even noticed the boys folder so I guess I was not paying to much attention.

[Howard]

I fully admit that I may be overreaching on this point but also in a world where homosexuality is more or less better accepted (see the WWII victory kiss) ended up being morally bankrupt.

[Matt]

You're also talking about 1985, though. Think of the fear out there of GAY CANCER.

[Howard]

In our world yes, but this one?

[Anderson]

In our world yes, but this one?

Yes, as well.

[Howard]

Not communicated very efficiently. To me, the killing of Silhouette was more or less a random hate crime not indicative of how society viewed homosexuality. Like I said, in a world where 2 lesbians are photographed for the cover of LIFE during the victory celebration=way far more ahead than our world. Which made it crushing that such a world was then portrayed as morally bankrupt. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Edited to add: I never communicated with you much over at CHUD. Shame because I've enjoyed our back and forth over here.

[Matt]

We don't know how gays are treated in that world, though. Was the Life cover/Silhouette murder a game changer? We don't know, and that's not what this particular movie is about.

[Anderson]

Not communicated very efficiently. To me, the killing of Silhouette was more or less a random hate crime not indicative of how society viewed homosexuality. Like I said, in a world where 2 lesbians are photographed for the cover of LIFE during the victory celebration=way far more ahead than our world. Which made it crushing that such a world was then portrayed as morally bankrupt. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Edited to add: I never communicated with you much over at CHUD. Shame because I've enjoyed our back and forth over here.

Well, the Silhouette V-J picture isn't a big triumph. Life snaps it by cosmic accident. Silhouette changed the course of history by grabbing that nurse and planting one.

Plus, Silhouette's murder is much later in the timeline. Somewhere between 1948-1950. I don't know the exact date, as she is still alive when Sally retires in 1950.

[Howard]

To me, it implies that the world was a LOT more accepting. Cover of LIFE magazine? That's freakin HUGE. Especially for the 40s.

[Anderson]

To me, it implies that the world was a LOT more accepting. Cover of LIFE magazine? That's freakin HUGE. Especially for the 40s.

She gets the cover because she's a Minuteman. The lesbian thing is incidental and it's implied in the book's supplemental material that it gets used against the team.

[Howard]

Well, the Silhouette V-J picture isn't a big triumph. Life snaps it by cosmic accident. Silhouette changed the course of history by grabbing that nurse and planting one.

Sure it was an accident BUT they ran it. That implies acceptance. No one in hell that pic would have made the cover of LIFE magazine otherwise.

[Anderson]

Sure it was an accident BUT they ran it. That implies acceptance. No one in hell that pic would have made the cover of LIFE magazine otherwise.

Well, we never know if it makes the cover in that timeline. It gets taken and people know about it. But, we never know if it got greenlit.