Minnesota/Wisconsin, not as bad as Ohio but we're trying!

[Shit Dickface]

maybe like a stripping choirboy I mean because you know those types

[nerdious dorkus]

maybe like a stripping choirboy I mean because you know those types

I sure do.

[Lisa]

Talk about an abuse of donations and power.

This. Between the donations and the out-and-out deep pockets that some of these ignoramuses have, it was ridiculous.

[B_Metal]

If you think religion is the only reason black men have issues with homosexuality then you're being as obtuse as the religious folks you're denigrating. Most of the black community has a skewed view of what it means to be a man for several reasons. Yes, some religious, some have to do with the amount of single mother households that have plagued black families for decades. It's socioeconomic just as much as it is religious. I get that a shit ton of the posters here are anti-religion but it's not always the ONLY reason things are the way they are.

I don't mean to rant especially because I DO know religious people who are shitty in some of the ways listed but I guess I'd like it at least acknowledged that not every religious person is a persecutor of *insert group here*

Faith in a higher being does not automatically make one a bigot or an asshole.

[nerdious dorkus]

What about a tigerace?

[V]

You might be painting with too broad a brush, I'm afraid.

Not all of us are anti-religion. Rather, I think most of us are anti- organised religion.

What you believe should be a matter between you and the god you pray to. I've never been a fan of priests, rabbis, ministers, or imams. You should not need a middleman to have to talk to God.

And since I'm among friends, I think I can safely say that yes... I do believe in God. I don't like him very much, but yes, I do believe in him.

[B_Metal]

What about a tigerace?

Really Nerdious, REALLY?

You might be painting with too broad a brush, I'm afraid.

Not all of us are anti-religion. Rather, I think most of us are anti- organised religion.

What you believe should be a matter between you and the god you pray to. I've never been a fan of priests, rabbis, ministers, or imams. You should not need a middleman to have to talk to God.

And since I'm among friends, I think I can safely say that yes... I do believe in God. I don't like him very much, but yes, I do believe in him.

I'm sure I am painting with too broad a brush but it's not intentional. And not to get into a heavy discussion about theism but if one believes the bible(which I do but am not saying anyone else must) then you also should believe in the need to gather to hear a portion of God's word. So on some level it must be "organized." I do however get what you mean about rabbis, ministers and the like. I don't believe in any middleman either. My prayers/confessions are for God alone.

My plea here is that we keep in mind that not everyone who believes in God/a higher being is out shouting down gay marriage or gay rights.

[Ed Hocken]

That's true, I did fail to mention the fact there's a real hyper-machismo in minoritiy communities.

[B_Metal]

No harm meant on your part Ed. I know that. I may have ranted a bit too hard. I just want the board to know that not everyone who believes is a bigot. Sure there's plenty of them, but hell every facet of life has 'em.

[Abraham Smashington]

I hate religion.

I love beliefs.

Simple.

[V]

Just a question...

Do you even have ethnic groups in Minnesota?

Aren't all of you horribly Aryan looking?

I guess 'Ripe Pablos' are out...

Maybe 'Ripe Sven' or 'Ripe Olaf'?

[Abraham Smashington]

We have one of the largest Hmong populations.

[Ed Hocken]

And a huge Somali population for some strange reason.

But yeah B, I hear ya. I don't want to give the idea that someone is religious is one of those guys. But I can see how that can be interpreted.

[Abraham Smashington]

Indeed. We're a pretty sweet mix out here in good ole' Minnesota, yah ya betcha!

[Ed Hocken]

Of all the places though. It's kind of like LA and armenians. Why this town? I have no fucking idea.