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The class warfare argument. How expected. Obama tried to play it last night and see how awesome he did.
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I'd rather go to the circus than watch the VP debate. Same results, right?Originally posted by AriComment
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It's the big problem: the country is divided. And you guys will need someone to mend both sides, and I can't see both guys oing it (one's a arich crazy guy, the other's black).
GO CIVIL WAR!BACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONComment
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Country's been divided for years now. You seem to think four more years of Obama will stop that. Yeah because he TOTALLY did for the last four years. Stop.
No matter who wins of the two, this won't stop anytime soon.Originally posted by AriComment
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Anarchy now.Originally posted by MartinOriginally posted by gravediggerOriginally posted by MartinComment
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It won't, but having Romney will expend the divide. Anyway, wither way, Big Business will control the country no matter what...Originally posted by FilmNerdJamie View PostBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONComment
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No more than Obama has. Who pushed a controversial health-care plan half the country was against in his first two years instead of focusing on the economy? He got called out on that last night. Not much of a reply...Originally posted by Martin View PostOriginally posted by AriComment
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That's something I don't get from you guys. What the fuck is wrong with healthcare? How your guys so ill-informed? The fact that you have to check you credit rating at the hospital is mindblowing and sadistic.
"Sorry sir, we can't treat your cancer(or your leg, or whatever else you have), you're not covered" is not the mark of a civilized country. Sorry Jamie.
Sometime you have to push a pill down the throat of someone to help them. You guys need basic healthcare.BACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONComment
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Originally posted by Martin View Post
It must be infuriating for other countries to see this from the outside looking in, but here's the basic hangup.
We've got a 35-40% segment of the population that believes they're being asked to pay for anything and everything. The Right Wing panders to this and since the 1950s they've managed to push this into a general cross-section of "HEALTHCARE ISN'T A RIGHT, EVERYONE MUST PAY THEIR OWN WAY". It was galvanized during the Red Scare days as socialism and now that's being turned into a welfare scare.
While the scare factor is being chipped away at, it is still seen as mandated welfare by a sizeable portion of the American voting populace.My readers come to me for my thoughts and opinions. I've built myself into a brand
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Our government (any government for that matter) sorting out shit as simple as getting your driver's license, your mail, permits, etc. is a fucked up, messy pain in the ass. And you think them handling something as complex as health care will be less so? Whatever you're smoking, I want some!
Not to mention, how are we going to pay for this with things as awful as they are economy-wise. Then there's that inconvenient li'l matter of the government not having the right to force us to buy any of their plans. Doesn't work that way.Originally posted by AriComment
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Originally posted by Martin View Post
Business controls the G8, the first world and everything in between.My readers come to me for my thoughts and opinions. I've built myself into a brand
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If all the Western world can do it, and we do, you guys can.Originally posted by FilmNerdJamie View PostBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONComment
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Who says it's actually working out overseas? Economy's down the tubes for the bigger-government, entitlement countries.Originally posted by AriComment
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Spain has problems, but France, Britain, Scandinivia andthe others are fine with their healthcare. Same as us. In fact, most are stunned by the US system once they learn about it.
It's that neurotic fear of BIG GOVERNMENT that's weird.BACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONBACONComment
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Originally posted by Martin View Post
It's two different national identities with one supported by the largest insurers in the world. The other has poutine.My readers come to me for my thoughts and opinions. I've built myself into a brand
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