Avengers Assemble!

[Matt]

There simply isn't enough rep in the world for Tim.

Regardless, my point is made. I'm done and I'll walk away. I'll also be there for THE AVENGERS on opening night.

[Timothy225]

I'll be there as well, bro. I'll bring a huge pic of Ginger to help you out in case you get too... distracted.

Matt: "Oh, c'mon already! Iron Man's spine should've snapped when Hulk caught him! I mean, if you apply physics..."

Me: (holds up following pic)


Matt: "Oh. Never mind." (goes back to watching the film, big smile on his face)

[B_Metal]

There simply isn't enough rep in the world for Tim.

Regardless, my point is made. I'm done and I'll walk away. I'll also be there for THE AVENGERS on opening night.

Yeah, that's it, your point was made.

[Matt]

Word to your mother.

[B_Metal]

Well, I'll say this, at least we're not arguing over Scarjo's pistol.

[Matt]

Rob took the lead on the pistol/bow and arrow thing. I agree with him in principle.

[Anderson]

Does somebody really want to talk superhero physical dynamics?

[Abraham Smashington]

Rob took the lead on the pistol/bow and arrow thing. I agree with him in principle.

Seriously though, does Hawkeye/Black Widow have any special "powers" besides being good at archery and good at karate?

[Matt]

Does somebody really want to talk superhero physical dynamics?

If you insist, sure.

All kidding aside, I stand by my assertion that the way to make the fantastical seem real and believable is to have the real world elements behave correctly. It applies known values to something that is unknown and thereby gives the audience a reasonable expectation of how things should interact.

I'm NOT saying that things need to be hyper real like in the Batman films. I'm just saying that human beings should not be able to withstand and walk away from Mega damage, especially when it has been shown that they are normal human beings when stripped of all of their hero garb.

[Anderson]

Seriously though, does Hawkeye/Black Widow have any special "powers" besides being good at archery and good at karate?

Black Widow is semi-immortal due to partaking of the Infinity Formula (see Nick Fury, Mockingbird, etc.)

She's had the better of a century to train and learn almost piece of weaponry she can get her hands on.

Hawkeyer is a former criminal/carny who's a natural leader and a bit of a smartass. He can shoot arrows, stab things and get more poon than Iron Man. Seriously, if you're a female Avenger that was on the team for the first 25 years, chances are that Hawkeye gave you the business. Re-read those older comics, you can make a drinking game out of it.

[Matt]

Did not know that about Black Widow. If they factor that within the film, then yeah...I'm pretty much fine with that.

[Anderson]

If you insist, sure.

All kidding aside, I stand by my assertion that the way to make the fantastical seem real and believable is to have the real world elements behave correctly. It applies known values to something that is unknown and thereby gives the audience a reasonable expectation of how things should interact.

I'm NOT saying that things need to be hyper real like in the Batman films. I'm just saying that human beings should not be able to withstand and walk away from Mega damage, especially when it has been shown that they are normal human beings when stripped of all of their hero garb.

Well, Stark has upgraded the Iron Man no less than 34 times since its inception. While it can take many blows, he still breaks up most of the hits he takes due to the fact that he has a mini-reactor in his chest.

Recent armors have used nano-tech and actually had reinforcements placed throughout his skin, spine and neuro system.

[Ben Thomas]

Did not know that about Black Widow. If they factor that within the film, then yeah...I'm pretty much fine with that.

They have to at some point if the Nick Fury movie involves Dum Dum Dugan and Fury kickin' A together as Neal McDounough seems to suggest it will. Likewise, Fury's relationship with Papa Stark.

[Matt]

That's all well and good, but it doesn't change the fact that the body cannot withstand the punishment that the armor goes through.

In the first film, he is flying along at what, 60 MPH, and gets a direct hit from a missile. It stops him dead in the air and forces him to fall to the ground, causing a crater upon impact. There's simply no way that his body could withstand that kind of force and collision trauma. Again, I'm fine with the armor protecting him from lacerations and punctures, but simply can't protect him from the kinetic energy of the impacts and sudden decreases of speed.

[Anderson]

That's all well and good, but it doesn't change the fact that the body cannot withstand the punishment that the armor goes through.

In the first film, he is flying along at what, 60 MPH, and gets a direct hit from a missile. It stops him dead in the air and forces him to fall to the ground, causing a crater upon impact. There's simply no way that his body could withstand that kind of force and collision trauma. Again, I'm fine with the armor protecting him from lacerations and punctures, but simply can't protect him from the kinetic energy of the impacts and sudden decreases of speed.

A man caught in a gamma bomb blast also doesn't turn into a green beast based on repressed childhood rage.

World War II Veterans don't get injected with steroids and frozen for decades.

Norse Gods don't exist.

Canadians don't have metal claws.

If you get bit by a radioactive spider, you get cancer and die.

Just try to enjoy a fucking story.