Avengers Assemble!

[Anderson]

Is the first one the thing that Gunn shot and Thor's director hated?

Yep.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Oh and they're gonna retcon Mandarin? Get cancer, assholes.

[Anderson]

Oh and they're gonna retcon Mandarin? Get cancer, assholes.

I'm not exactly sure what to make of it. While I love what they did in Iron Man 3, it create larger plotholes within Iron Man 1.

The way I'm seeing it from the information I have at hand is Trevor gets visited by AIM wanting to replace the Mandarin that failed them with a better one.

Trevor was still the Mandarin. Just not the Mandarin that gets to live past this upcoming short film.

[Abraham Smashington]

It's been a while since I've seen IM3 but didn't they leave themselves wiggleroom in regards to the Mandarin?

[Anderson]

It's been a while since I've seen IM3 but didn't they leave themselves wiggleroom in regards to the Mandarin?

Yep.

[Abraham Smashington]

it sucks because I for one really fucking liked Trevor and that whole bit, but it's not the end all for me. I just hope it makes sense and it's not because nerds freaked out about the reveal.

Stupid question, was it ever explained why Captain America is the only good super-soldier candidate?

[Anderson]

it sucks because I for one really fucking liked Trevor and that whole bit, but it's not the end all for me. I just hope it makes sense and it's not because nerds freaked out about the reveal.

Stupid question, was it ever explained why Captain America is the only good super-soldier candidate?

Well, here's the kicker.

In the comics, Dr. Erskine was forced into labor camps to work on the formula. The movie got it right that The Red Skull was the result of a botched attempt to force the serum. However, the end result showed Erskine what was needed to make it work.

When he defected to the US, he knew it could work at mass scale. The US just had to be willing to fork someone over. So, they grabbed a pipsqueak kid that was on his way to becoming an orphan. It worked, but Erskine got capped.

The end result was that the government took Erskine's notes and started the Weapon Plus program.

Captain American = Weapon I
Nuke = Weapon VII
Wolverine = Weapon X

and so on.

Roman Numeral, not letters. If Erskine would've lived, the US would've had an army of super soldiers.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Pearce saying he was the Mandarin said it all about how open-ended it was. Pretty chicken-shit way of taking all our money and now playing dumb and giving into fan pressure. Just like how they brought back Coulson.

I hated the twist. But they had my respect for having the balls to go through with it and not reneging at the end. It didn't ruin the rest of Iron Man 3. Just said, "Well... that's bullshit" and enjoyed the remainder.

[Abraham Smashington]

Well, here's the kicker.

In the comics, Dr. Erskine was forced into labor camps to work on the formula. The movie got it right that The Red Skull was the result of a botched attempt to force the serum. However, the end result showed Erskine what was needed to make it work.

When he defected to the US, he knew it could work at mass scale. The US just had to be willing to fork someone over. So, they grabbed a pipsqueak kid that was on his way to becoming an orphan. It worked, but Erskine got capped.

The end result was that the government took Erskine's notes and started the Weapon Plus program.

Captain American = Weapon I
Nuke = Weapon VII
Wolverine = Weapon X

and so on.

Roman Numeral, not letters. If Erskine would've lived, the US would've had an army of super soldiers.

Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification.

[Anderson]

Much like Coulson, it's a case of giving the fans what they want in a different way than they expected.

I trust Marvel on this.

[Abraham Smashington]

If this gives us some MAGIC then yeah, awesome.

[FilmNerdJamie]

If this gives us some MAGIC then yeah, awesome.

MAGIC... in your pants?

[Anderson]

If this gives us some MAGIC then yeah, awesome.

Magic? Probably not. Chaos? More than likely.

[Abraham Smashington]

semantics

[Anderson]

semantics

  Spoiler: Avengers 2 related 

I can't wait for the giant backflips they have to do to explain mutants, Infinity Gems and the like during Avengers 2. All the while, introducing Ultron.