The Dark Knight Rises (SPOILERS!)

[Captain Russ]

I'm a Batmanwhore.

The director is secondary. I just hope Batman is actually competent this time.

[BillyG]

I'm a Batmanwhore.

The director is secondary. I just hope Batman is actually competent this time.

Yup, I saw those Schumacher pieces of shit gladly, though my opinion changed quickly after. Been meaning to watch Dark Knight again.

[Captain Russ]

It does not pass muster.

EDIT: There are things to appreciate in it, but it is a mess disguised by the overarching shadow of a dead thespian.

[BillyG]

I've watched it many times, just been a few months since my last viewing. It definitely has faults, but overall I think it's great. Now, Begins? Unwatchable. Katie Holmes absolutely devastates a decent film with her "acting."

[FilmNerdJamie]

I love both flicks, but personally think Begins is better.

Cue gasps.

[Captain Russ]

Begins is hamstrung by a central character whose supposed morality is in direct conflict with his actions, the presence of a nonsensical macguffin, unnecessary exposition, and some of the most egregiously redundant dialogue ever committed to film.

Holmes is the least of its problems.

And what is the most fucked up thing? I enjoy it anyway.

[Captain Russ]

Why?

Because Batman, that's why.

[BMichaelKrol]

TDR still holds up for me. Mostly because of Ledger. His Joker is the Hannibal Lector of modern times.

[Matt]

I love both flicks, but personally think Begins is better.

Cue gasps.

Right there with you.

[FilmNerdJamie]

You can't even fucking tell that what they claim is going on (which I won't say because not everyone is as "Eh..." towards spoilers as me - AKA click on your own discretion) is actually happening in this video. Goddamn hit-whores.

[Randall]

Lies! Can't see shit in that video.

[Captain Russ]

Looks like he got a new Lambo at least.

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE BRUCE WAYNE IS STILL FUCKING RICH

[Mike]

I am hoping this one is better than Dark Knight or Begins. Begins could have easily been 20 minutes shorter. Dark Knight, I am beginning to think, was purposely baffling so as to accentuate the madness of the Joker. The way Heath plays that character is outstanding, especially when he is in the jail cell with the cop. Actually, his scene with Dent in the hospital is equally as chilling. Watch his face during both of these scenes. I re-watched the film last night and holy fuck.

[BMichaelKrol]

I am hoping this one is better than Dark Knight or Begins. Begins could have easily been 20 minutes shorter. Dark Knight, I am beginning to think, was purposely baffling so as to accentuate the madness of the Joker. The way Heath plays that character is outstanding, especially when he is in the jail cell with the cop. Actually, his scene with Dent in the hospital is equally as chilling. Watch his face during both of these scenes. I re-watched the film last night and holy fuck.

I'm starting to agree with you and this point of view. A great QB can mask a lot of problems on a Football time, likewise, an outstanding performance from an actor can make up for a lot of short-comings in a script. Ledger turned in a fantastic performance. Iconic, really. But once you get past that, and really start looking at the story and film, the wheels start to come off.

Minor pet peeve: when the M&A attorney comes to Freeman and does his spiel, never once does the attorney identify Bruce Wayne. Yet Freeman just spills his identity. Bugs me every time.

[BillyG]

Caught the end of Begins last night. At the end he says he will "Look into" Joker...but when Dark Knight rolls around does he have a single clue as to who/what The Joker is? I remember him being pretty well caught off guard.