Dumb & Dumber

[B_Metal]

I saw the movie twice around the time it came out. Hated it both times. I wasn't exactly interested in fucking editing, comedic timing and what not. It was either something I liked or not. And fuck me with a chainsaw if I'm going to watch a shitty movie from that long ago just to have a reason you think is valid to hate it. That's like asking someone to punch their dick because "it hurts" just didn't convey their feelings enough for you.

[Martin]

You just didn't get it. Comedy is highly suggestive, but when you call something a turd and yet a lot of other people like it, there's something you might be missing.

Look, I hate most rap music, but it doesn't stop me from liking and appreciate A Tribe Called Quest.

[FilmNerdJamie]

You just didn't get it. Comedy is highly suggestive, but when you call something a turd and yet a lot of other people like it, there's something you might be missing.

I was just pickin' earlier with my Super-Nintendo Chalmers stare. But I understand why B_Metal doesn't dig it.

Hell speaking of comedies, I hate the American Pie films; never got why people went crazy over them. Ditto the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels (although as the years pass now, I hear more people renounce their knee-jerk love and acknowledge how much shit they were) and Transformers films.

[Martin]

I get why he hates them, just like Matt hates The Fifth Element, but there's some great stuff in Dumb and Dumber. And while I share your hate of the Pirates sequels, despite Depp, but I love the first Transformers, despite it's obvious flaws.

[FilmNerdJamie]

The first Transformers has Spielberg rubbed, felt up and dry-humped all over it (Spiel-boned?) All the major shots he called (brought on K&O to write, hired Shia and Bay, but held him with a leash at times; like Nolan/Snyder on Superman and Singer/Vaughn on X-Men: First Class).

Could explain why some thought it worked as a movie.

[Martin]

It's exactly why it worked. I think I heard that Spielberg didn't have the time for the 2nd one, and that could explain the disaster that the sequel was. The whole coming-of-age tale in it is all Spielberg, as I'm sure Bay didn't give a shit about it.

[FilmNerdJamie]

By that logic, we could get an X-Men: First Class sequel where Magneto walks away calling his opponents cunts and over-the-top crazy violent shenanigans!

[Martin]

No, I'm saying that Spielberg's touch gave the first movie the necessary charactarization and some restraint that made it an actually fun and good movie. The sans-Spielberg 2nd one proves this.

[FilmNerdJamie]

I knew what you were saying. Just fucking around. I still find it to be a horrible movie personally though.

[BillyG]

This fucking thread has made me Dumb and Dumber.

[Anderson]

That's like asking someone to punch their dick because "it hurts" just didn't convey their feelings enough for you.

Now, I know how I'm going to spend my afternoon.

[Martin]

Now I'm gonna go watch Dumb and Dumber.

[B_Metal]

You just didn't get it. Comedy is highly suggestive, but when you call something a turd and yet a lot of other people like it, there's something you might be missing.

Look, I hate most rap music, but it doesn't stop me from liking and appreciate A Tribe Called Quest.

Sorry Martin but I "got it," I just didn't LIKE it. There's a big fucking difference. I've never dug that type of humor and no matter how slickly it's edited, or how great the timing, someone having super shits with goofy faces only to have someone tell them the toilet isn't working just isn't that fucking funny to me.

And to say that I'm missing something because other people like it is fucking ridiculous. People like Ke$ha according to her record sales, so does that mean you just "don't get it" with regards to her? OR could it mean that the people who like her probably like shitty disposable pop "music?"

I think some of you are forgetting that different people's taste matter just as much as the technical shit that goes into a film. It's art, whether it be high art or not, and all art is WHAT'S THE MAGIC WORD?????? SUBJECTIVE.

Feel free to pick apart the above argument all you like but I think I'm pretty much done with this thread.

[Martin]

NO YOU'RE NOT!

[Matt]

The moment when Daniels and Carrey are sword fighting with their canes waiting to enter the party, then Carrey calls timeout, walks ahead through the door, Daniels follows behind caning the back of Carrey's legs bring him to his knees. Win!

THAT scene and the moment where Jeff Daniels simply unloads a snowball, full force, into Lauren Holly's face. PURE gold.