What Emmanuelle Movie Did You Just Watch?

[Matt]

Fucking hate NBK. It's a shrill, unwatchable movie. I'd rather watch SAVAGES again.

[BillyG]

I loved NBK. Honestly might be the Stone movie I've seen the most.

[Abraham Smashington]

I like the idea of NBK. The execution is all over the place unfortunately.

[Abraham Smashington]

I prefer The Doors for my Ollie Stone movie.

[Matt]

THE DOORS is really close to being 'great'. It's just very, very bogged down with a lot of pretension, unfortunately.

[IggytheBorg]

Yeah, never saw HEAVEN AND EARTH either. That being said, I have a major soft spot for the truly underrated NIXON. That was a phenomenal movie.

All that. And I dug the Doors a lot, but I don't think it ranks in the same class as Platoon, JFK, or Nixon.

Also, totally agree w/ rerb re: NBK. Great idea, but SERIOUSLY flawed execution. Harrelson ws good from what I recall (only saw it once), but Juliette Lewis was her usual annoying self. Only movie she was in that she didn't manage to seriously drag down was Cape Fear. DeNiro kept that one aloft almost single handedly on the strength of his performance.

[BillyG]

THE DOORS is really close to being 'great'. It's just very, very bogged down with a lot of pretension, unfortunately.

Exactly like their music.

[Ben Thomas]

I'm totally the other way round on NBK. I think Stone's technique is what makes it great - Tarantino's version would have been much less interesting. I tried to rewatch The Doors in the last couple of years and couldn't get more than 10 minutes in. So I guess we're just coming at them from opposite angles there.

Nixon has so many great things about it and the script is well worth a read for anyone interested in screenwriting. For me, the film is hampered by the flashbacks to his childhood that were just awful, sub-Spielbergian simplification and became more grating as the film went on. I also don't personally think Hopkins was the man for the job on that one either. He stands out in a sea of awesome actors and performances as doing more of an impersonation than delving into the character. When you see what Langella did with Nixon a few years ago, it's clear how little the physical similarity matters. It's Casino to JFK's Goodfellas.

[Nathan]

In terms of teh greatness.

Salvador
JFK
Heaven and Earth
then
Platoon.

I've not seen Salvador or Heaven and Earth. Fail.

[Nathan]

Yeah, never saw HEAVEN AND EARTH either. That being said, I have a major soft spot for the truly underrated NIXON. That was a phenomenal movie.

Nixon has some great moments.

[Nathan]

It's Casino to JFK's Goodfellas.

Pretty apt.

[Anderson]

Heaven and Earth is nowhere near Stone's best films. It's melodramatic and faintly silly in the final reel. Just doesn't work the way it should.

I have plenty of love for Platoon and NBK. I just can't take Sheen seriously in anything and he brings down Platoon for me.

You're on fucking crack if you can't appreciate an emotional analogy about US/Asian relations from a Vietnam Vet suffering from PTSD.

But, I bet you're a "U-Turn" fan.

[Anderson]

I've not seen Salvador or Heaven and Earth. Fail.

Salvador is the greatest Stone film because he was the most rushed on it. Well, this flick and "The Hand".

It allowed him to dial back the bullshit, beef up the lead role and actually tell a direct story.

[Captain Russ]

All that. And I dug the Doors a lot, but I don't think it ranks in the same class as Platoon, JFK, or Nixon.

Also, totally agree w/ rerb re: NBK. Great idea, but SERIOUSLY flawed execution. Harrelson ws good from what I recall (only saw it once), but Juliette Lewis was her usual annoying self. Only movie she was in that she didn't manage to seriously drag down was Cape Fear. DeNiro kept that one aloft almost single handedly on the strength of his performance.

She was pretty bangin' in Strange Days as a drugged out singing dickbutt/analogue to Courtney Love.

[IggytheBorg]

Exactly like their music.

*BROFIST*