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  • My only gripes with the Daniel Craig movies is that they are more Bourne than Bond. And I don't like that. I demand SPY GADGETS dammit. I don't care how smooth he is or that he's parkouring and shit. I want some crazy fucking gadgets that do fucked up shit dammit. It shouldn't be too much to ask for.

    I did like the weird stuff with Javier but it didn't really factor into anything besides "Gross, his face..." Seemed out of place a bit.
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    • With you 100%, Rob.
      Originally posted by Martin
      Who the fuck is Kellan Lutz?
      Originally posted by gravedigger
      Basically what I'm saying is that, based on what I've watched so far, we should all listen to Matt more often.
      Originally posted by Martin
      And who the FUCK is Peaches Geldof?
      Kellan Lutz's girlfriend?

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      • In the case of Skyfall, the story and character of Bond was kept threadbare for a reason.

        "What did you expect, an exploding pen?"

        Of course, Q's confidence (bordering on hubris) is given a beating when Silva trolls him in a setting where he is the most confident and sure of his abilities. This will no doubt, what with where they leave Bond and Co. in the final scene, signal a return to those tactics you miss so much. That is if Q has learned from his miscalculation.

        If that's not enough, remember that whoever was the quartermaster before is now in one of those boxes with the Union Jack draped over it. The old guard is dead. And Bond has just met the new Q, who is a bit of a twat, so of course he'd be given jack shit to fulfill his duties.

        Shit like that would have felt out of place in this story anyway. I have a feeling you'll see some sort of gadgetry at some point in the near future.

        Personally, if it fits the tone, I have no problem with gadgets. But Craig's outings haven't really needed many gimmicks to keep you interested. Though in the case of QoS, it might have helped distract from the aimlessness of it all.
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        • Bond has always used gadgets. It's what made him awesome. I understand that they had to go in the opposite direction after the shitty Die Another Day, but it seems as if they went too far.
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          • I'm not disagreeing with that fact, merely stating that even in context, he wouldn't have had access to them in this movie.

            I think you may have to wait for XXX3 to get your fix.
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            • Also, what was the point of the whole fucked up face with the badguy? Did that factor in at all after he showed Bond the effect?
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              • The way Skyfall ended, it seemed to set up Bond in his previous status quo, right down to the return of the

                  Spoiler: For Your Eyes Only, darling... 
                Universal Exports set, with Bond flirting with Moneypenny, then M giving him his orders, just like every other Bond flick prior to the reboot/revamp/re-origin that was Casino Royale.


                Gadgets will be back by the next flick. Hell, we had gadgets in Casino Royale (what, you mean your car doesn't have a doohickey to restart your heart in it's glove box?) and if I remember correctly, in Skyfall, Bond's gun had a fingerprint/DNA code so only he could fire it (see, now I have to rewatch Skyfall again!).

                I'm gonna miss Desmond Llewelyn's Q though, getting all pissed off at Bond for being an ass while Q tries to explain how this new doodad works.

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                • Originally posted by Abraham Smashington View Post
                  Also, what was the point of the whole fucked up face with the badguy? Did that factor in at all after he showed Bond the effect?
                  I was more distracted by his nose. That nostril thing kept bugging me the entire film.
                  Originally posted by Martin
                  Who the fuck is Kellan Lutz?
                  Originally posted by gravedigger
                  Basically what I'm saying is that, based on what I've watched so far, we should all listen to Matt more often.
                  Originally posted by Martin
                  And who the FUCK is Peaches Geldof?
                  Kellan Lutz's girlfriend?

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                  • Oh you and your faceholes.

                    And I'm pretty sure the reason for Silva's unmasking was it revealed to M, a person he had all the faith in the world in until she gave him up, what she had wrought in leaving him to the dogs. He finally had an audience with the woman who allowed this to happen, of course he'd show the absolutely fucked up face her actions had left him.

                    It was the essence of his character to show the world how much of a raw nerve he was. The entirety of the plot hinged on his resentment. Giving him a gimmicky deformity is a Bond cliché, but here it is handled in such a way as to make it disturbing and put a bit more complexity and backstory into his character.
                    Last edited by Captain Russ; 01-07-2013, 09:09 AM.
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                    • What I want to know is, what is the significance of the colour-coded villains?

                      Mr White, Dominic Greene, Silva...

                      Is the next one gonna be Joe Cabot chasing Bond down for fucking up his planned diamond heist?

                      I experienced an invasion of my mind by a transcendentally rational mind, as if I had been insane all my life and suddenly I had become sane.

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                      • Originally posted by Timothy225 View Post
                        and if I remember correctly, in Skyfall, Bond's gun had a fingerprint/DNA code so only he could fire it (see, now I have to rewatch Skyfall again!).
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                        That's not a cool gadget. That's just gun safety.
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                        • Originally posted by Ben Thomas View Post
                          What I want to know is, what is the significance of the colour-coded villains?

                          Mr White, Dominic Greene, Silva...
                          Gold, Jerry.


                          Jerry Goldfinger is next is what I'm saying.
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                          • Originally posted by Ben Thomas View Post
                            What I want to know is, what is the significance of the colour-coded villains?

                            Mr White, Dominic Greene, Silva...

                            Is the next one gonna be Joe Cabot chasing Bond down for fucking up his planned diamond heist?

                            NEVER noticed this. Wow. I feel stupid...
                            Originally posted by Martin
                            Who the fuck is Kellan Lutz?
                            Originally posted by gravedigger
                            Basically what I'm saying is that, based on what I've watched so far, we should all listen to Matt more often.
                            Originally posted by Martin
                            And who the FUCK is Peaches Geldof?
                            Kellan Lutz's girlfriend?

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                            • Originally posted by Matt View Post
                              I was more distracted by his nose. That nostril thing kept bugging me the entire film.

                              The point was that Silva was another agent of M who got fucked up by doing his job. He was captured, tried to swallow some cyanide, but it didn't work.

                              He had most of his face/throat burned by the experience and now he's deformed. It's the whole twisted mirror approach to M's relationship with Bond. Plus, it allows Mendes to keep aping "The Dark Knight".
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                              • Currently watching Hackers.

                                Really? I mean...really?!?
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