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[gravedigger]

SPOILERZ ALL UP IN THIS BITCH

I wanted to split this out of the "what you watchin', fool" thread because I think it could be a good thread on it's own and so we don't have to use the spoiler tag for the entire discussion. Here's one post from Howard:

Yeah, but it's a cellular decay that we see. Awakened or not, you should see that same cellular decay in the stored clones. We see the storage area. Not some kind of frozen sleep. Hmm. All at the same age. With no sign of cellular growth. Damnit. Which is why I go back to the something in the food that activates the cellular decay. Blah, blah, blah, studies have shown that greater than 3 years of "life" on the moon leads to mental breakdown/destruction of company property and thus the built in destruct with the introduction of a compound into the food/water source. Ehh, I'm over-analyzing a fairly tight film.

I had the same question about the lifespan of the clones. I figured it had something to do with cloning technology not being perfect, even in whatever year the movie takes place. But I'm also filling in the blanks on the front side by assuming the statis the unactivated clones sit in does not trigger the decay. Kind of like in the ALIEN universe where being in stasis doesn't cause you to age.

Then again, maybe the three year life is input by design based on some psychological study. I could see three years alone in a space station with only a robot with an eerie and detached voice as a friend wearing on your mental faculties.

An even bigger question? What was the point of the film? I'm not going to lead with my thoughts because I'm curious to hear some of yours.....

Outside of the film being a chance for Rockwell to put on one hell of a performance, I think the ultimate point of the film is a comment on big business and industry. The mining company (sorry, I forget the name) basically commoditizes (new word?) human life. They put a dollar value and useful life limitation on an employee for the purposes of cutting as many costs as possible. And based on the last few minutes of the movie, the world where this takes place clearly still assigns great worth to human life. It's not like THE ISLAND.

One question I had- how did they decide to use Rockwell? Did he really do a stretch on the station and was so great that they chose to use him as a model for the clone attendants? And if so, did he know he was being cloned? I don't want to see a sequel but I'd love to see some kind of book or something filling in some of the backstory because I think it's so interesting.

[Captain Russ]

The reason I put upon his being chosen was entirely conspiratorial, where there was no original Sam, that "Earth Sam" never went to the moon. Instead, his genetic material was sent and cultivated at the sole discretion of the company and Moon Sam was engineered from day one.

I mean, Earth Sam's inflection seemed a bit too eager to know who was on the line as his daughter was talking to Moon Sam on the comms link.

There is the obvious problem with the correspondence with his wife, but who is to say that all of that was not orchestrated and manufactured from the get go? (probably collectively shaking your heads right now as the flaws and holes in this logic begin to appear)

I saw it as everyone at the company was in on the joke, and all at the expense of the "3-year people." A bit misanthropic, but that was the whole point of the film (big bidness hates you and would kill hundreds of you over and over if it meant more money in their coffers).

ETA: I need to watch it again just to make sure I am not talking directly out of my ass.

[gravedigger]

If it was orchestrated from the get-go, how did they get those messages produced? I think writing scripts and filming those messages to the moon would let the cat out of the bag to too many people and Earth would have found out about it long before the clone landed back home.

[Captain Russ]

Not if the corporation controlled the transmission origins (actually retaining control of the sat comm channels without any government oversight and all is a stupid notion, I know, but it is a movie).

But like I said before, it's massively conspiratorial on my part.

[Howard]

This post seriously fucks with my head.

http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php...02#post2958102

[Ed Hocken]

Despite all of the conspiracies as it were. The movie is incredibly straight forward with what its doing. There was an original Sam Bell, there are now clones.

I always thought there was an actual Bell up in the base and the messages just kept getting recycled. That or the entire thing got orchestrated.

[Abraham Smashington]

This post seriously fucks with my head.

http://chud.com/forum/showthread.php...02#post2958102

you didn't know that? How did people not know that?

[Ed Hocken]

That's true, Jones being Bowie's son was announced when the film came out.

Damn, I love that soundtrack so much.

[Abraham Smashington]

For sure.

[Abraham Smashington]

That's also kinda cool. People dig on his flick because it's good and not because he's Ziggy Stardust's kid.

[Howard]

Totally did not know that fact. Seriously.

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[Ed Hocken]

It was a real pleasure to see this in the theater.

[gravedigger]

I think every. single. article. about this movie mentioned "directed by Duncan Jones, the son of David Bowie". It's kind of weird that some people don't know about that.

[Howard]

I didn't read any article on this flick (watched solely on word of mouth).