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Jamie: How on Earth would anyone sane vote for Romney? Beside if you hate women, gays, the economy* and healthcare? And like taxcuts for the rich, endorse some form of rape, bombing people for no reason and deporting jobs elsewhere?

I don't get it. Romney can only make it worse.


* And no, Obama ain't responsible for the economy shitter you guys are in. Bush is 1000% responsible. Any non-biased economist will tell you. Obama ain't The Savior, but he's going somewhere you guys can get out of.

I've been working for a machine long enough to know that changing it TAKES TIME. The bigger it is, the longer it takes. Worse, Obama most likely inherited a fuckload of stuff the public ain't remotely aware of, like all people in power do when the regime change happens. Guantanamo won't be closed this year, not the next, but there's a reason for that. It sucks, but that's life.
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Krueger/Voorhees 2012.

They'll slash taxes.
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What's weird: our conservative are your liberals.
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Didn't say nor imply there was blame to go around. But how would anyone sane sit there and say Obama bears zero responsibility for where we're at as you are not-subtly implying?

Heard none of this "It's going to take more than one term to fix the economy!" argument from Obama, the Democrats and the Media. Until the DNC. Where was any of that when he took office in 2009? Nowhere in sight, instead he focused on Obama Care (and then high-fiving himself when it got passed) when the priority was the economy, then and there.

You do realize job outsourcing happened big time under Obama, right? And that this "War of Women" crap is just that? Did women lose any rights under Reagan or either of the Bushes, not to mention Clinton or Obama so far? Oh but now they're suddenly under attack because an nit-twit is whining because she wants me to pay for her birth-control. Why would it suddenly happen under Romney? Oh, because he's Mormon. Yeah that's not bigoted "logic."

Was game for Obama four years back. Things haven't gotten any better and they have offered no incentive to get my vote (again). Just more pretty-speeches with no substance and fear tactics. Dude has terrible judgement. Right now we still have the awful economy and the shit going down in Egypt. He can't make to meet with the Israeli PM over these matters but he can make time to yuck it up with Letterman.

I forgot. Everything is Bush's fault.
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Economy-wise: yes.
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The thing I remember the most about Obama is that I beat Fallout 3 the night he took office. GOOD TIMES.
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Night he won I took an old friend out to dinner where she confessed her marriage was falling apart. Weird how you remember that shit.
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Kinda with Jamie on his points. Still, Obama's got my vote for another go at it for the simple reason that i want the tea party to exit the Republican party so that some semblance of sanity can come back to the GOP.
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Neither side is your buddy. You're being invited every four years to vote for another establishment motherfucker to step on your neck and break your back.

What matters is that you vote for the least of the assholes. Just don't mistake your preference for not being an asshole. It takes a special kind of psychotic shit to run for office in the first place.
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Didn't say nor imply there was blame to go around. But how would anyone sane sit there and say Obama bears zero responsibility for where we're at as you are not-subtly implying?

Heard none of this "It's going to take more than one term to fix the economy!" argument from Obama, the Democrats and the Media. Until the DNC. Where was any of that when he took office in 2009? Nowhere in sight, instead he focused on Obama Care (and then high-fiving himself when it got passed) when the priority was the economy, then and there.

You do realize job outsourcing happened big time under Obama, right? And that this "War of Women" crap is just that? Did women lose any rights under Reagan or either of the Bushes, not to mention Clinton or Obama so far? Oh but now they're suddenly under attack because an nit-twit is whining because she wants me to pay for her birth-control. Why would it suddenly happen under Romney? Oh, because he's Mormon. Yeah that's not bigoted "logic."

Was game for Obama four years back. Things haven't gotten any better and they have offered no incentive to get my vote (again). Just more pretty-speeches with no substance and fear tactics. Dude has terrible judgement. Right now we still have the awful economy and the shit going down in Egypt. He can't make to meet with the Israeli PM over these matters but he can make time to yuck it up with Letterman.

I forgot. Everything is Bush's fault.
While it's great to have a counterpoint to a lot of the Left's bullshit. The scenario that Obama inherited and helped to propagate is the masterwork of the Bush Team's Reign of Terror.
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The fact of the matter is that both sides have been taken over by the extremes...we NEED to cut spending and we NEED to raise taxes, pure and simple. Bipartisan committees have said that very thing. Will either side budge? No.
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Four years of spending and spending hasn't fixed the economy. No solutions from Obama besides "No trust me!" Translation: more spending and spending.

Weird how Romney gets tagged as a Tea-Party guy when during the primaries the narrative was he wasn't right-winged enough for em? Now he's the ticket and the King of the Tea-Party?!

You're right, Troy. Neither party cares about us. Until it's voting time.
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Neither party cares for the average dudebro. With that said Fuck Romney with a double barreled chainsaw.
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Didn't say nor imply there was blame to go around. But how would anyone sane sit there and say Obama bears zero responsibility for where we're at as you are not-subtly implying?

Heard none of this "It's going to take more than one term to fix the economy!" argument from Obama, the Democrats and the Media. Until the DNC. Where was any of that when he took office in 2009? Nowhere in sight, instead he focused on Obama Care (and then high-fiving himself when it got passed) when the priority was the economy, then and there.
You do realize job outsourcing happened big time under Obama, right?
First off: I'm center-right, politic-wise. Right mainly for economy and justice, but there has to be a social-net for the people. Things like HEALTHCARE, which is ironic cause all civilized countries in the West have it. Except you guys.

Guns: important. Healthcare: no. Go figure. It's a very basic healthcare, but it is important to anyone who has medical troubles.

Any retard can tell you: invading Iraq ruined your economy to the ground. Add to that federal spending that doubled under Bush, tax cuts and you have a recipe for disaster. Anyone with a brain could have guessed it would have to take some time to change, especially with the economy destroyed like it was. Spending HAS to be cut, but honestly, all the studies proves that Obama spent less than Bush ever did. Which is ironic, considering who's who.

As for outsourcing, it happened all across Occident, but remember that Romney pushed harder than anyone to outsource. It's only gonna get worse.



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Mormon has nothing to do with shit. Denying equals right to someone else makes someone an asshole and a bigot.

Saying repeatedly in public that certain forms of rape are acceptable is disgusting by any human being, even more so by a presidential candidate. Fuck, do you watch television? There's no way any media can manipulate that shit up. Paying for birth-control? That's new. If you call abortions "birth-control", you have a weird stance on women in general. Shit, 99.999999% of women have have abortions aren't doing it for fun. It's fucking traumatic.

As long as the Republicans are being guided by religious lunatics like the Tea Party, and Romney is playing that angle, you guys have ZERO chances of having a good second choice. Do you know how many old school Republicans have abandoned the GOP? A lot. Any self-respecting Republican will vote Obama, or else he's voting for the Witchfinder General, which is worse by any account.


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Was game for Obama four years back. Things haven't gotten any better and they have offered no incentive to get my vote (again). Just more pretty-speeches with no substance and fear tactics. Dude has terrible judgement. Right now we still have the awful economy and the shit going down in Egypt. He can't make to meet with the Israeli PM over these matters but he can make time to yuck it up with Letterman.

I forgot. Everything is Bush's fault.
Netanyahu got dissed ON PURPOSE. Obama just slapped him in the face in public and it's all good.

Cause he's a fucking asshole, and Obama's right to do so. If that continue, Israel could get nuked and most people on Earth will applaud. Why? Cause so far Israel is causing a lot of the trouble in Middle East beside Iran. All those illegal colonies? All the previous borders being invaded? Are you aware of that? Netanyahu is a hardliner that is dangerous to Israel, as he's not conceding anything. No peace is possible, so Obama's right to tell him to fuck off.

AS for Egypt, that's the Muslims being themselves...
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What's funny about all of this is how First World Western "allies" don't understand how America works Post 1945.

They don't care. Eisenhower was the first one to catch on, since towards the end of his last term...he started to realize he was just a figurehead.

America isn't a country, so much as it is a world engine propelled by a shared willful ignorance of what keeps it afloat. The American people share in, the government pushes it and the rest of the world takes the hush money handouts.

What Bush and company did was unprecedented in the sense that Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice understood this concept. While past political agents have used it for world-building such as Kissinger in regards to Vietnam and China...they did something else.

Cheney wanted to hit the Middle East like a battering ram and recoup what they didn't achieve under HW Bush. The problem was that a lot had changed between 1992 and 2003. It's ok to be a bull in a china shop, just as long as you don't own the china shop.

Socio-political entanglement is a concept that has just mindfucked the Republicans from Teddy Roosevelt on. You can take, take and take some more from the wide world, but you have to maintain it. Lack of maintenance or the fear thereof is how empires crumble.

But, America's been here before. Fuck, we hit that point twice in the 20th Century. The key to coming back has always been find a centralized enemy and exploit the economic weaknesses of our foreign interests.

We've got the enemy (take a wild fucking guess), now we just have to put the foreign 1st and 2nd world in jeopardy. As we've had to learn over the last decade, nobody gives a fuck about the third world. From a political strategy standpoint, I would be really worried if I was Spain, Italy or Greece. Those three are the most vulnerable at this point to manipulation and due to their geographic proximity to America's latest problem.
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